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to solve the deficit standoff, people should listen to this guy. plouffe said this is going to get hairy? >> we want to engage in comprehensive tax reform. we also need to engage in entitlement reform. you know? medicare, medicaid carefully, these are chief drivers of our deficit. we made a lot of progress with obama care and there's other spending we have to cut. >> hold on a second. i think we all know what the chief drivers of our deficit are and have been. our projected deficit over the next seven years is driven mostly by the wars in iraq and afghanistan and the bush tax cuts. entitlement programs don't even compete with these costs. plouffe went on to pin the problem largely on republicans who are not flexible on higher tax rates, but he also said this. >> and so where i think the big bottleneck right now is republicans in congress on revenue and how much and where does it come from. democrats are also going to have to step up here and do some tough things. and you know, the notion that somehow that these deficits and our debt are not a threat to our national security and our econo
cliff and really we have to do something to fix our sky rocketing deficit. our national deficit that he will tell you has been going up and up and up like a rocket and spiraling out of control like a something going out of control and paul ryan is just so right and if congress and president obama do not do something to stop the sky rocketing deficit, to sop up the red ink, if they don't by new years or whatever the emergency is supposed to happen we will go flying off the fiscal cliff and not like these guys that mean to do that but more like cliffhanger cliff on the price is right for which going over the cliff is a dire mistake. you will hear this at thanksgiving dinner table. when someone inevitably brings up the fiscal cliff and how our sky rocketing deficit is a huge danger to us, do not crawl under the table. do not give up on thanksgiving. help your giant uncle understand what he is freaking out about is not true. it is easy. there are visual aids that might help. first of all, the amount of money borrowed by the government has been going down, not up. this is the deficit in '09
's translate that. according to the congressional budget office, falling off the cliff would cut the deficit but stop economic recovery in its tracks. now presidents in both parties usually try to put money in people's pocketses to stimulate the economy. president bush sent taxpayers a refund check while obama has cut payroll taxes. p falling off the cliff is a reversal of that approach. that's why the cbo estimates economic growth would drop under 1% to just .5%. and unemployment could jump over a point to 9.1%. heather, we know the costs, we understand this game because the republicans have been playing it for a while. do you think anything has shifted post-election in way that will actually get a deal done? >> i think what's really come to roost for conservatives has been the fact they were pushing a vision for our economy that included basically just this, except for the tax increases, right. they said starting in 2010, the deficit is the most important thing, it's the most important thing, and now, they're basically faced with immediate deficit reduction and realize, oh, this is actuall
reduce the deficit. it doesn't make a lot of sense to get rid of a deficit reduction program, as part of a deficit reduction deal. the white house already rejected boehner's idea. obama care will not be part of debt negotiations. boehner is up to something here, don't you think? something else, that is. if you watch john boehner closely over the last two weeks, you can see him laying the ground work for the latest ploy. he call eed obama care the law the land, but also tried to link it to obama care and the budget. >> you had said, next year, that you would repeal the health care vote. that's still your mission? >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected. obama care is the law of the land. i think there are parts of the health care law that are going to be very difficult to implement. and very expensive. and at a time where we're trying to find a way to create a toward a balanced budget, everything has to be on the table. >> but you won't be spending the time next year, trying to repeal obama care? >> there are certainly may be part
puts forward his plan. how is he going to close the other part of that deficit? you know, his proposal right now, the most he can say would raise would be about $68 billion when our deficit last year was $90 billion. what is the president's plan for closing the additional additional $1 trillion worth of deficit? i think that's incumbent on the president to put forward his plan. >> from your standpoint alone, there's no way you see fit in the coming 35 days that you would break that pledge with glove norquist. >> well, thomas, let's use a couple numbers here. even with this measly economic growth we've seen the last three years, revenue at the federal government has increased $344 billion per year. if we just return to a normal economy that returns about 18.5%, that would increase revenue an additional over $400 billion per year, that's $750 billion of revenue per year through economic growth. and the president, his proposal would raise 1/10 of that but would put at risk the economic growth and that $750 billion. so -- >> sir, with all due respect, though -- >> counterproductive. >> tha
and be on the group with a group of bipartisan business leaders and deficit hawks getting something done, meeting with republicans and democrats. do you have any more optimism let me point out you and your pal erskine bowles, he was quoted as saying he's more pessimistic something will be accomplished. >> my poor dear partner, bloodied but unvowed, six months ago erskine was saying i think we can get there. now, he's pessimistic. would be a word. we were just with a group go big or go home, democrats and republicans alike, they've got signatures of over 200 -- 102 house members, half of the senate working for us, equally divided on both sides, you have to have something bipartisan. you can write it on a single sheet of paper if it had firewalls and triggers, and if it were just signed by an equal number of democrats and republicans, the markets would lay off of us. if they continue to see this dead-head struggling, the same old stuff, they're going to punish us. when they do the guy that will get hurt is the little guy, middle class, inflation, interest rates, that's who gets hammered. what an ir
. >> as for the democrats, senator dick durbin says entitlement programs like medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations but insists social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things that i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. so those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> despite showing a willingness for reform, senator durbin ruled out raising the age for medicare eligibility. if lawmakers fail to act by january 1st, the american people will face roughly $600 billion in tax increases and spending cuts. >>> because he watches "morning joe" every weekday morning -- >> i don't think that's true. maybe. >> -- monday through friday, senator john mccain is taking our advice and softening his attacks on susan rice. after vowing to block her potential nomination as secretary of state. now, republicans are claiming the amb
krugman sounded a different note today in the "times" and is talking about this idea that cutting deficits is a number one priority. he writes supposedly any day now investors will lose faith in america's ability to come to grips with its budgets failures. when they do there will be a run on treasury bonds, interest will spike and the u.s. economy will plunge back into recession. this sounds plausible to many people because it's roughly speaking what happened to greece but we're not greece. he's saying while this is a real dynamic for some countries, it is not because of the way we fund ourselves, is that right, ben? >> that's right. i would say morning munnize not actually by given name. >> i didn't know that. >> he's right, we're not greece, we're a much larger economy. we can grow our way out of debts and deficits. we've got a ginormous economy. we had a huge black friday weekend. probably $600 billion for the total shopping over the holidays. the question is, as we get close and getting into december, if it looks like talks are breaking down and we have the same old lines on no tax inc
of sweden suggests teens and adults with attention deficit disorder are four more times likely than others to break the law and also found the use of adhd medication into adulthood might also help curb crime. >>> to sports we start with two nba games. lifting the hawks over washington, 101-100 and next, russ well westbrook had a fading jumper over chris paul. oklahoma city beat l.a. 117-111. >>> fourth ranked michigan made a second half come back at the nit semifinals. wolverines beat pittsburgh skaech-62, to advance for the championship game. a big nfl thanksgiving triple header today, come on, men, you know you're excited, starts with texans at the lions at 12:30 and redskins at downs at 425 and primetime matchup has the "new york times" jets at 8:20 on nbc. >>> your entertainment is straight ahead. on this thanksgiving, actor william shatner gets autotuned in this deep fried turkey from state farm. it's a little bizarre. take a listen. ♪ ♪ i want a deep fried turkey, a moister taking turkey ♪ ♪ blinded by my hung er i ignord safety ♪ ♪ spatula tasted science you're not flame
complications from lymphoma. he warned against large federal deficits and was a fierce critic of the reagan administration in the 1980s iran-contra affair. >> the american people have the constitutional right to be wr g wrong. and what ronald reagan thinks or what oliver north thinks or what i think or what anyone else thinks makes not a whip if the american people say enough. there comes a point that the views of the american people have to be heard. >> the new hampshire senator didn't seek re-election in 1992. later saying "i can see the republican party gradually being taken over by movement conservatives and self-commissioned christian soldiers whose social agenda i found repugnant." warren rudman was 80. >>> as the president considers his cabinet for a second term, the "wall street journal" reports eric holder will likely stay on, at least for the start of the new administration. holder clashed with congress for refusing to turn over certain documents in the fast and furious gun trafficking scandal. he had been the first sitting attorney general to be found in contempt of the house of
is deficit is the biggest problem. here we are with the cliff, the curve, whatever you want to call it and what do we find out? even republicans are warning they don't want to go over the cliff because guess what? just cutting the deficit without any regard to the rest of our priorities is a bad idea. it happens to be the heart of republican economic policy and the other thing about never raising taxes, guess what? we don't have the gdp to seniors ratio than we did 20 years ago, so if we're going to be serious about an ageing population, it means you can't stick to these fantasies. >> i remember two years ago on the show, introducing him to the audience and explaining he's the most powerful republican in government and i had to do this long thing on who he is. and now, here he is in the center of this debate. let's listen to what the republicans are up against in the negotiations with the white house. jay carney indicated today what the president's stance is on income tax rates. >> i would say also that the president has made clear that he will not sign a bill that extends the bush
of the issues understood the solution to the deficit plan. >> what grows jobs in america are consumers spending money. and the average person needs that $2,000 in his pocket to drive the economy. saying that tax breaks for the rich drive consumers lower down to spend is like saying you could start your car by pouring gasoline on the hood. there's no proof, there's no factual data to support it. it's completely a sham to say that. >> and he's a business owner. we need more members of congress to sound like that. if the president is trying to achieve solidarity on raising the top tax rate, these are the voices that can come through for them with that message in a big way. an owner of an automobile supply company says she supports the plan even if it means her own personal rates will go up. . >> i would have higher tax rates, but r more important and more crucial, the middle class would be spending about $3,000 more. >> harry reid kept the focus on the president's winning campaign message of letting the tax cuts expire on incomes over $250,000 a year. >> the people who have done so well during thi
years. that's significant deficit reduction and you don't have to get into all this michigas as my grandma would say about which loopholes you're going to close. when you go that route you run into the same math problem mitt romney had. there's typically not enough revenue to make up for if the upper -- >> i have seen you do the experiment with the glass and it's wonderful. most americans think washington officials will behave like spoiled children, and warren buffett took the gop to school today, quote, let's forget about the rich and ultra rich going on strike and stuffing their ample funds under their mattresses if, gasp, capital gains rates and ordinary income rates are increased. the ultra rich, including me, says mr. buffett, will forever pursue investment opportunities. so he's calling for a minimum tax on millionaires and billionaires. will republicans listen? >> well, it's a sensible way. if we're going to have a deal, we will have to see some kind of compromise. a minimum tax on people making over $1 million a year can generate a half it trillion in a ten-year scale. if y
to solve our fiscal problems. the deficit will essentially go away. the bad side we're in a deep recession and the deficit will go away. this is an economy that can't afford to have 4% of our spending disappear just next year. we'll see a recession next year almost for sure and for certain. so that's the sense in which i think this is something to worry about. we want -- the recovery is faltering right now and we really don't need congress clubbing it over the head again, pushing us back down yet again. >> yet again. justin, thank you, sir, from the university of michigan. great to have you. >> thanks, alex. >> catch one of the key players in the fiscal cliff negotiations right here on "now" when senator patty murray joins us tomorrow at noon eastern. >>> and coming up after their romney nominee received just over a quarter of the latino vote republicans say they're ready to put up when it comes to comprehensive immigration reform. what are they doing about it? so far putting up a lot of window dressing. the display when telemundo's jose diaz-balart joins us ahead. want to try to crack it?
that reduces the deficit by $4 trillion. that is substance. so he has not waited for people to start smelling the jet fumes at national airport. he has actively put forward a plan. >> top republicans are saying president obama should be spending less time politicking out in the public and more time working behind closed doors in washington to try to hammer out a deal. >> rather than sitting down with lawmakers of both parties and working out an agreement, he's back on the campaign trail presumably with the same old talking points that we're quite familiar with. look, we already know the president's a very good campaigner. we congratulate him on his reelection. what we don't know is whether he has the leadership qualities necessary to lead his party to a bipartisan agreement. >> and at least one top republican is now pushing members of his party to can you tell a deal with the president right now. tom cole of oklahoma urged fellow members to accept a plan tell a deal with the president right now. tom cole of oklahoma urged fellow members to accept a plan for taxes. senate democrats are optimis
, here's a fact. the president has on the table a proposal that reduces the deficit by $4 trillion. that is substance. so he has not waited for people to start smelling the jet fumes at national airport. he has actively put forward a plan. >> okay. welcome back to "morning joe." welcome back. christmas is coming. >> all right. >> can you believe it? >> yeah, the christmas tree. it's looking beautiful. harold ford jr. is still with us and co-founder of the no labels organization, market mckinnon, also with us, "fortune" magazine's leigh gallagher. mark, good to see you. jeff zucker. >> a struggling -- >> taking over cnn. >> looking to jz. >> jeff zucker to run the joint. >> that would be interesting. >> smart guy if see what happens. all right. well, good, good. so how is our republican party -- so mark mckinnon, it's been a very, very rough month for you as a republican. you haven't shaved since the election. >> ah. >> you're not -- >> looking very handsome. >> you're not brushing your hair. >> well. >> your scarves look a little out of touch with the rest of your outfit like this
care law be on the table in the deficit talks, although didn't he tell diane sawyer it was the land of the law? anyway, the cincinnati enquirer saying we can't afford it and can't afford to leave it intack. so, keith, are we -- i mean, is this the same version repeat the first, whatever that is? you know, same old, same old. he told diane sawyer straight to her eyes this is the law of the land. >> i guess the tea party people got to him. there's a story that they called election night and neither one came to answer the phone and reportedly they were asleep. i think they actually were asleep because apparently they slept through the fact we had an election and they lost. they still think that they're going to repeal obama care and john boehner, if he seriously thinks it's up for negotiations in this fiscal cliff talks has to be crazy. out of his mind if president obama or democrats have a reason to give up on something that the american people approved. it is just not going to happen. they need to move on. >> zachary, one thing about the fiscal cliff, because there are certain rumors
, the deficits are going to go even higher. >> oh, yeah. even a maximum deal, i think, all of us would agree is not going to happen. simpson-bowles is not going to go through. even that would not be commensurate with the question. and i think what exacerbates this is every day that passes, the president works on one kind of clock. and everybody else invested in the system works on a different one. the president's clock is now just ticking toward history. everybody else is ticking toward the next election. both in '14 and in '16. and the human reality of politics is that as he starts to think more long term, everybody else is going to be imprisoned, if you will, or trapped, constrained by having to go back and getting re-elected. >> let me stop you for one second. you're a historian. i am a politician by trade when it comes to this stuff. and i can tell you the clock is actually, in my opinion, the clock is actually ticking fastest for the president. because at some point, the republicans are going to pick themselves up off the ground, and they're going to say, wait a second. i got 78% in my
we need other than taxing the rich? >> we need a framework so you can look and see the deficit is coming down to near zero. that's what we need. >> where do we get the money on the spending side? >> well, first, on the taxes in addition to raising the tax rates, what we're going to start hearing much more about is the unbelievable tax gimmicks. i just want to say, but, joe, one thing about that, if i could. >> where is the spending coming from? >> i want to say one thing about that that's funny. go google and some of our other biggest companies have been hiding profits for years from the irs. with the irs' approval, putting it in bermuda and so forth. now europe is saying, because they use european con duets, okay, we'll tax that. no, that's money that should be taxed by the united states. stow if we continue our gimmicks we're going to lose it to europeans. >> so we have to raise rates and we have to cut loopholes. what about on the spending side? where do we get the money there? >> we're going to have to get defense under control and spend these wasteful wars have added trill
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